trials for the Dulwich Hill - Marrickville Junior Development Program
for season 2009, on Sunday November 9th and 16th at Steel Park,
Illawarra Rd Marrickville.
Each trial session will commence at 11 am, for all age groups between
under 8s and under 12s.
In 2009 we will have one team per age group from Under 8s to Under 12s
that will play their games in the Canterbury Association on a Saturday
morning.
Training sessions throughout the season, will be held at Mahoney
Reserve, Wharf Rd Marrickville, on a Tuesday and Thursday evening for
all age groups.
All teams will be coached by their Dulwich Hill coach at both sessions
during the week. The Dulwich Hill coach will also attend the teams
matches each Saturday morning.
Training will commence approximately 4 - 6 weeks prior to the first
competition match and conclude in the week leading up to the final day
of junior competition.
Players will also be profiled throughout the year and two player
evaluation reports shall be provided, one at the half way mark of the
program and then again at the conclusion.
We are also looking to arrange non competition matches, from time to
time, throughout the year with other development squads and private
academy teams.
As always the aim of the program is player development, with a desired
outcome of producing players that will, in time, be selected in our
representative youth league sides.
For further information, please feel free to email this address.-
info@dynamicfootball.com Regards,
Dulwich Hill Coaching Department.
15 comments:
This academy is quite poor. The quality of coaching is poor and repetitive. Some coaches have limited practical youth coaching experience. Several sessions involved children in queues taking turns to have shots at the coach who stood in goals. Player discpline was sometimes poor. There are better football programs elsewhere.
I disagree with the above.
I thought last season's Dulwich Hill Academy was great!
The coaches are far superior to most parents you get coaching teams. And they give the added bonus of being objective - ie, no coach's son getting all the attention and game time.
While there probably are better football programs else where they also cost 3 to 5 times as much.
Also, there are not too many clubs at this level that provide a pathway into under-13s youth league.
I suspect the above comment was made by someone with sour grapes - maybe their son didn't make the cut or they wanted to coach the side themselves.
Anyone who saw last season's Under-11s team playing in the div 1 grand final, with their calm and objective coach - as opposed to the Gordon Ramsay-like coaches in some of the parent-coached teams - could immediately see the value in the program.
I agree with Anonymous 2, compared to what is avaliable out there for the price, DHA was a great first year. I think MFC is heading in the right direction with this and as long as it improves every year every one will benefit. The coaches i think are a benefit to the kids and compared to having a father coaching, give me DHA any day.If Anonymous 1 thinks it is poor.... Canterbury reps awaits you with their incestual selections. Keep up the good work MFC....and lets start stepping up and compete with all the other top clubs in everything!
To Anon 2 from Anon 1:
(1)The better coaching programs can be found at some association clubs for 20% of the cost of DHFC. You seem to have had some unfortuate experiences at association clubs, but you will find there are many dedicated parent coaches who are professional, objective, well credentialled, and turn up for every game.
(2) The "pathway" into the DHFC U13youth league is dubious. Ask DHFC this question..How many kids from the 2008 U12s bothered to trial for 2009? How many kids who did trial have been selected?
DHFC failed to inspire those who did not trial, and failed to prepare those players that did trial. On the first night of trials DHFC signed six players. None of them were from the U12s academy.
Anon (3) from Anon (1)
I think you'll find the only player from the 2008 U12s who has been selected for 2009 U13s is a player whose family is already at DHFC. Now that's incestuous, or as you put it: "incestual"!!
To Anon 1 from Anon 2
OK, now it's clear - your kid didn't make the grade for DHFC U/13s and you're upset. Maybe he just wasn't good enough. Sounds like big time sour grapes on your part!
And where are these great coaching programs for $144 per annum (20% of $770)? Most clubs basic rego fees are significantly mroe than that.
Another point - it was made clear from the start that this was a longterm program. Last season's u/12s had one season of training. Everyone knows that in terms of results they were the weakest of the 5 Marrickville/DHFC teams. Maybe the simple fact is that most of the players are just not that good.
Let's wait a few years and see how this year's 9s, 10s or 11s progress when they get to U13s, having experienced the program for long enough for it to have an effect.
Final point - I'm amazed at your negativity. If you don't like DHFC why are bothering even looking at this forum? Grow up and get on with it!
Anon 2. You have responded to my issues by describing the 2008 under 12s as "weak", "not good enough", and ridiculing their parents. Does everyone associated with DHFC and MFC seek to avoid scrutiny by denigrating 12yos and ridiculing their parents?
Dear Anon 1 from Anon 2
I simply stated a fact that the 12s were the weakest of the DH/Marrickville teams. Doesn't mean there are not good players in the team - I'm sure they are all good players - but probably not good enough for Super Youth League.
You have to realise that from u/8s to u/12s there are around 100 division 1 sides in Sydney, however there are only 36 U/13 teams in state leagues (Premier, Super and Div 1). This means that 66% of kids playing div 1 in U/12s are not going to make it in U/13s state leagues.
I think the worst thing DH could do is pick players in U/13s simply because they had played in the 12s academy. That would be unethical and also uncompetitive.
When DH first approached Marrickville they made it clear that they would be picking the best players they could find for U/13s but that if two players had similar ability, then the DH/Marrickville academy player would get preference. I can't see how they can make it fairer than that.
Obviously from year to year the strength of teams will vary. Looking at next season's U/12s, given their success last season, I would think there's a good chance a lot of them will make it to DH Super Youth League.
If the progam's success is to be measured accurately, we'll have to see how kids who have had several years in the academy progress. Obviously 1 year in an academy won't make a huge difference. It's unfortunate for last season's 12s, but that's just bad luck.
A couple of other points - I have no position with either DH or Marrickville - I'm just a parent who is happy with the academy. I've experienced academies with higher profile, more elite clubs and found they don't always compare well with DH.
Secondly, I'm not ridiculing anyone except you. As for denigration, anyone who posts such negative comments two days before the 8s-12s trials can hardly be touchy about denigration. What you did appears like a case of attempted commercial sabotage, trying to ruin the trials.
And lastly, isn't the fact that the club allows your comments to be published in their own forum a sign of maturity and inclusiveness?
As I've said before, if you're not happy, fair enough - but just move on with life and try not to be bitter - in the end it's you and your child who will suffer from your bitterness more than anyone else.
A dedicated parent coaching is only there mostly for 1 reason, their own son/daughter!
DHA is their to find and improve talent. I can tell you my son is not the best player but because of DHA he improved his football skills, grew his confidence, leadership & team spirit. Best money I have spent. Keep up the good work MFC, it will only get better.
DHA was very professional. I am more happy now that they will coach fulltime.This was requested by parents last year and DHA have listened.Wow... a football club that listened! I am impressed!
LOL!!!!.....DIDNT YOUR SON MAKE IT..DUDE!
I think if you dont like it then go else where. I thought the coaches did ok! Whats all the fuss. Shish!
Hello A2 from A1
I am not bitter. Just asking questions. DHFC held itself out as a professional academy. It charged money. I paid my money and I am entitled to comment and ask questions. Consumer driven comment is in everybody's interest.
Here are some more questions:
If it takes more than a year to develop a player for YL then what was the point of DHFC offering an academy to the 2008 U12s who would have had only 7 months to prepare for the big step up to the YL?
Wouldn't it have been better to start with the U11s instead, or provide more focussed training for the U12s to prepare them, or rejecting the U12s at the start of the year before enrolling them and then eventually telling them that they needed longer than a year.
Did DHFC tell the U12s they needed longer than a year before or after they had enrolled them?
At the end of 2009, will someone be telling you: "it takes longer than two years", or "let's see what happens next year before assessing the worth of the programme"?. It could well be, because based on the trials and training for U11/12 this year, the selectors are looking for something completely different to what DHFC taught the U11s and U12s to do this year. The selectors did not even ask the triallists to stand in a line and take penalty shots!!!
Why did DHFC issue players with glowing players assessments awarding high marks? Will you get one in 2009? Yes. You will get two. They are meaningless.
Why is it that a parent who is not connected with either of the clubs has a broad knowledge of many aspects of the programme such as communications between the clubs, expected development time frames for the players, the facts and figures for youth leagues in Sydney and the results during the season for all of the age groups, even for those age groups (under 8 and 9) that are not made public by the CDSFA?
Why is that anyone who asks questions is always ridiculed and abused and has his motives questioned?
To anon 1 from anon 2
I know all the details of the programme because I go to Marrickville coaches and managers meeting (by the way, any parent can go) and listen to what is said.
I know the results of the 10s, 11s and 12s because they are publicly available on the CDSFA web site. I know the results of the 8s and 9s because I had a child in one team and spoke quite often to the coach of the other.
I've also asked DH a lot of questions about the program - as any concerned parent would.
As for the facts and figures re number of youth league teams etc, that's all available on Football NSW web site. All you need to work it out is some basic maths.
Re was it worthwhile having the 12s considering they'd only get a season's training. Quite possibly not - maybe you are right on that point. But bear in mind this was the first year, it was never going to be perfect, and perhaps the 12s were just the unlucky ones.
By the way, you're not being ridiculed for asking questions. There were no questions in your initial post, just inflammatory statements not backed by fact (eg, you still haven't told us where these "better football prgrams" costing $144 a year are)and clearly designed (and timed) to deter people from trialling.
Obviously those who are happy with the academy want to present counter-arguments.
Given that you obviously have no more involvement with DH, I don't know why you bother even coming back to this forum. Really, what is the point for you?
Do you have to trial on both Sundays ? We were unable to attend last Sunday. How many trialled for each of U8's, U9's and U10's ? Thanks.
I would suggest you ask Mark Strachan, DH head coach:
info@dynamicfootball.com.au
Some age groups had quite a few trial, others not so many.
Last year they offered places to some kids at this stage but then had more trials later.
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